Bart Ehrman Shocks Everyone When He Admits THIS about Christmas (David Wood)


Bart Ehrman. Everyone’s favorite. Bart Ehrman. C
hristian who became an agnostic. Textual critic. Bart Ehrman. Muslims point to Bart Ehrman because they
never actually read his books. If they were to take anything he’s ever
said seriously, they’d have to reject Islam, because what Ehrman says we can know about
Jesus and his early followers completely destroys what Muhammad said about Jesus and his early
followers. Muslims ignore everything Ehrman actually
says because they have to ignore everything he actually says in order to continue living
with the delusion that Bart Ehrman agrees with them. You know what’s cool about Ehrman—apart
from the way he wrecks Jesus mythers? I mean, if you want to see Ehrman go off,
watch an atheist tell him that there’s no evidence that Jesus existed. Hilarious stuff. But apart from Ehrman crushing the claims
of Muhammad and making Jesus mythers look like total morons, he says stuff like this. This is a Facebook post in which Ehrman lists
his reasons for loving Christmas. Here at the end he shares his final reason: The image of God it conveys. The God of Christmas is not a God of wrath,
judgment, sin, punishment, or vengeance. He is a God of love, who wants the best for
people and gives of himself to bring peace, joy, and redemption. That’s a great image of a divine being. This is not a God who is waiting for you to
die so he can send you into eternal torment. It is a God who is concerned for you and your
world, who wants to solve your problems, heal your wounds, remove your pain, bring you joy,
peace, happiness, healing, and wholeness. Can’t we keep that image with us all the
time? Can’t we affirm that view of ultimate reality
52 weeks of the year instead of just a few? I myself do not believe in God. But if I did, that would be the God I would
defend, promote, and proclaim. Enough of war! Enough of starvation! Enough of epidemics! Enough of pain! Enough of misery! Enough of abject loneliness! Enough of violence, hatred, narcissism,
self-aggrandizement, and suffering of every kind! Give me the God of Christmas, the God of love,
the God of an innocent child in a manger, who comes to bring salvation and wholeness
to the world, the way it was always meant to be. Notice that when Ehrman refers to the God
of Christmas, he isn’t referring to the holiday or anything to do with
Santa Claus or reindeer. He’s focusing on the birth of Jesus and
what it means in Christianity. So, Ehrman doesn’t like the idea of a God
of judgment. But he does like the idea of a God of love. He likes the concept of a God who loves people
so much that he enters into creation as Jesus of Nazareth in order to give us a new life
and a relationship with him. The main reason Muslims have never been able
to understand the Incarnation— God taking on a human nature—isn’t that
it’s somehow impossible. Muslims believe that God is powerful enough
to do whatever he wants. So if God wanted to enter creation, he obviously
could. The real reason they can’t get their minds
around the Incarnation is that they don’t believe in a God who loves people enough to
do something like that. The Quran is filled with verses about Allah
not loving people. Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. Allah does not love any ungrateful sinner. Allah does not love the unbelievers. Allah does not love the unjust. Allah does not love him who is proud or boastful. Allah does not love the extravagant. Allah does not love the treacherous. Allah does not love the mischief-makers. Allah does not love any arrogant boaster. According to the Quran, Allah will only love
you if you first love him. Jesus condemns this sort of love. He says in Matthew 5: “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love
your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and
the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward
will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?” If you love unbelievers, or the unjust, or
your enemies, you’re more loving than Allah. Think about that. What sense does it make for a human being
to be greater than God in some important way? And yet the world is filled with people who
are more loving than Allah. I love people more than Allah does, and I’m
a psychopath. But we’re not more loving than the God of
the Bible—the God who entered this world and allowed himself to be tortured and killed
by people he created in order to take the punishment that
those people deserved. Ehrman no longer believes in God. But sometimes, when he talks about Christianity, it’s clear that he misses parts of the Christian
message. Not all of it. But parts of it. Ehrman here reminds me of Charles Templeton. Templeton used to preach alongside his dear
friend Billy Graham. Then one day, he was looking at a photograph of
an African woman who was holding her dead baby, and he concluded that God doesn’t exist. He spent years trying to convince Billy Graham
that Christianity was false, but Billy Graham went on to preach the Gospel
to more people than anyone else in history. Lee Strobel interviewed Templeton for the
book “The Case for Faith.” When Templeton talked about God, he was pretty
hostile and absolutely adamant that God doesn’t exist. But when Lee asked him about Jesus, Templeton
said that Jesus was the greatest human being who has ever lived. Much to Lee’s surprise, Templeton also said,
“I miss him.” Templeton had spent decades criticizing Christianity,
and he had tried to destroy the faith of one of the greatest evangelists of all time. But he was honest enough to admit that in
spite of his staunch opposition towards Christianity, he still missed Jesus. I think Bart Ehrman misses Jesus. It’s kind of strange to miss a person who
died nearly two thousand years ago once you reject the theology surrounding the person. How do you miss a person that way unless
you had a relationship with him? What is it about this first-century carpenter
from Nazareth that fascinates the entire world like no one else ever could? Who was Jesus that even an agnostic whose
career is dedicated to undermining confidence in the New Testament can still say, “Give me the God of Christmas, the God of love, the God of an innocent child in a manger,
who comes to bring salvation and wholeness to the world, the way it was always meant
to be”? Try to figure that out over the holidays. And Merry Christmas . . .
especially to you, Bart.

100 thoughts on “Bart Ehrman Shocks Everyone When He Admits THIS about Christmas (David Wood)”

  1. Ever wonder why Bart Ehrman doesn't talk about the Quran? He tells us in this 45-second video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59txpioPYJI

  2. Ha ha ha.
    An employee can't do anything without his
    boss permission. Because
    his boss paying him.Silly
    people think they can enjoyin this beautiful
    world with everything
    without even appreciate
    to their Lord ? He is the one
    who has to love first ? Isn't it
    He who presented to us this
    beautiful world ? Shouldn't
    we have to appreciate to
    Him ? When no one will give a piece of cake free without
    expecting (at least) a little smile in return ? Great people ,ha ?

  3. David the bible thumper, the worshiper of devil, the evangelist of man-made religion and the worshiper of king Kong ( Jesus of man-made bible).

  4. You should love God first
    He is the one who give you
    people to love .
    Is that your love hurting
    Muslims ?
    Or you think that they are not people in your list ?

  5. It for verses like this that I love Christianity. No sane person can deny it:

    Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? (Ezekiel 18:23, ESV)

  6. I was thinking did the Angels Griebal or any Angel of God ever appeared to Jesus in the bible or quran,I believe no, bcuz the word of God was their creator and Jesus was the word of God.And God is his word

  7. David, I think it's time for us Christians to stop insulting Allah. Ever wondered how Jesus pronounced God, it's "AaLaH". Jesus spoke the Aramaic language and God is pronounced as "AaLah" in Aramaic.

    Islam has insulted Allah by attributing the immoralities of Muhammad to Allah.

  8. It is amazing that for a person like Bart Ehrman, who spends so much time reading the Bible, has absolutely ZERO understanding of what God actually says. The Lord Jesus Christ reminds us when He quotes Isaiah 6:9-10:

    And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

    ‘HEARING YOU WILL HEAR AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND,

    And SEEING YOU WILL SEE AND NOT PERCEIVE;

    For THE HEARTS of this people HAVE GROWN DULL.

    Their ears are hard of hearing,

    And their eyes they have closed,

    Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,

    Lest they should UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEARTS and turn,

    So that I should heal them.’ – Matthew 13:14-15

    The Bible isn't a Book to for intellectuals (Jesus reminded us of this constantly) full of "head knowledge":

    At that time Jesus prayed this prayer: “O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding these things from those who think themselves wise and clever, and for revealing them to the childlike. – Matthew 11:25

    And so we humans fear God, because he shows no respect for those who are proud and think they know so much. – Job 37:24

    It is a Book to be understood in our hearts, where Jesus reminded us all things proceed:

    A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it … For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, and slander. These are what defile a man, but eating with unwashed hands does not defile him. – Matthew 15:11,19-20

    The solution to this problem was prophesied by Ezekiel:

    I will give you a NEW HEART and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My Spirit within you AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES and to carefully observe My ordinances. – Ezekiel 36:26-27

    This does NOT exclude certain Christians I have encountered, particularly of the Calvinist persuasion, who revel in their "intellects" and theology degrees. You'd be surprised …

    Amen.

  9. The problem with such people as Ehrman, Templeton and many atheists, from what I read in their comments, is that the premise of saying God doesn't exist because of suffering in the world is that it's God's fault there is suffering in the world. That's false. Such people refuse to accept that it's THEIR fault that there is suffering in the world, not God's fault. They idiotically ignore that they are guilty and all of that is a result of guilty man, all mankind, and all it's wrongdoings, with a bit of Satan thrown in. Ehrman refuses to accept that the Jesus he wants had to come because of his evil and sin and it was out of love and GRACE that he came. Ehrman believes Jesus coming shows that God is saying Ehrman is innocent. Wrong. He came because EHRMAN is guilty and Jesus isn't judging him because of grace, not because Ehrman is innocent, as he apparently believes he is. In short, Ehrman and Templeton believe it's all God's fault.

  10. I dont think an atheist or agnostic can miss Jesus the person, but they can recognise the exemplary values he identified as and miss seeing them in the humanity. Not missed as values that were once ubiquitous but as values that are missing.

  11. Bart is an idolatrous man then because he makes up his own version of Jesus rather than what the bible says about Jesus he may want to look at the second coming the lion of Judah wrath judgement death a just God who does love but will punish the wicked

  12. Merry Christmas David Wood. Merry Christmas to you and all of your family.
    Thank you for all that you do in the defense of our faith.
    Jesus is Lord!!!

  13. The god of Christmas is not the God of the Bible! So, why would I want a false god to begin with? How is this video related in any way to the Bible since Christmas isn't even remotely related to what the Bible teaches about Jesus Christ, let alone his birth?

  14. My current views on Christianity are dominated by the Prodigal Son parable. This parable is kind of all of our’s biographies told from God’s perspective. The Prodigal Son makes the journey out and then he makes the journey back in. Some Chritians may well note that atheists often make the best Christians, Lee Strobel and David Wood are just some examples. Because of this I love atheists and agnotistics and deist, they are all faithful questioners on the prodigal path. Islam puts a sword to your throat and then asks you to believe. Islam is based on certainty not faith. Both those statements would deny us the prodigal path. It is fundamental to the faith that God gives us just enough free will to reject him. (Note we don’t have free will on all things – sexual orientation for example is not something we choose = ask an elderly gay person if he chose the life of being gay.). And one of the first things we did was reject him. In conceiving us God seems to be confronted by a fork in the road: leave us with free will and assure our damnation or take away our free will and assure our salvation – but instead God chooses a 3rd way – he allows us to have free will yet still allows us a way back to him and that way was manifested through the Passion of Christ. This suggests to me that it was are free will – our leave to be prodigal sons – the freedom to follow the prodigal path by our own seeking of the truth is why the passion was necessary. Jesus wants us to have that freedom, he wants us to ask questions and seek the truth. Much of the gospel is written on how to go about seeking the truth, what it looks Ike, what to avoid, the entire ch.8 in Matthew for instance. To me the Prodigal Son Christianity is the most beautiful thing ever conceived theologically – thank you Luke for including it in your Gospel – and Bart Ehrman is well along on that road. Each book he writes is a bread crumb showing us where he is on that path. Personally I don’t think Christ hates atheist and agnostics as long as they are that by honest, humble and good will seeking of the truth and I think in most cases at the time of their death they will have come back to being so close to Jesus that it will be only a small act of grabbing hold of him even if at the very last minute and Jesus as the Parable suggest will celebrate completely that route having been taken and come to a successful conclusion. I therefore enjoy the time I spend reading what Ehrman has to say because I don’t think he has an agenda other than to seek the truth. If God was patient enough with us to give us free will and time and mind to seek the truth, then we need to respect that.

  15. FYI
    Christ-mass is actually saturnalia and is a completely satanic/catholic holiday.
    Also, Mass the time of day/week/month when Catholics sacrifice animals/human babies/kids.
    The Bible states to not celebrate holidays of heathens , and you can only worship one god.
    Christmas is an evil holiday- stop celebrating it.

  16. Leave your idol worship and come to the truth. The way jesus(pbuh) preached , there is no God besides the one true God. And that is Allah. No one else.

  17. Jesus loves you so much that he doesn't want your unbelieving grandma to burn in hell forever. Jesus wants your grandma to just believe 🙏

  18. Error-man… Yet another unbeliever who spends so much of his time thinking about — that which he claims he does not believe in! Maybe it's all he knows, so it's a living? …

  19. ▓▒░   Oh,  he  doesn't  believe  

    in  God,  huh?

    Someday…when he gets up;

    turns around;  and  sees  

    himself   still layin' there

    on that  hospital bed,

    he'll understand.   ░▒▓

    `

  20. God of Christmas- cronos aka Saturn (ate his children) demands child sacrifice to appease him. Look into it people; that's what the trinkets on the trees represent(kids you offer)

  21. Wasn't Jesus the one who introduced Hell ,never ending torture,(for finite ''crimes'' ) made by him/God, could there be anything worse? more then makes up this meek and mild stuff,
    funny Bart didn't mention that

  22. When David was reading Bart Ehrman's Facebook post, I have to admit that I was put in mind of Templeton and his comment about "missing Jesus" as well.

  23. Let's continue to pray for him and all that left faith. Yahweh father will bring them back. However let's continue to show them love and not hate. Shalom

  24. Oh dear brother I love you but you need to do a little research on origins of Christ-mass . It is pagan sun god worship. Jesus was born in 3 bc September 11. We have all been duped by the false Catholic Church. God does not want us worshiping his amazing son with traditions based in paganism. I encourage you in your walk and am praying for your brother. Yahuah bless you.

  25. Mohammed peace be upon him, thought us to love jesus peace be upon him as well all other prophets of God and massagers.

    David Wood, Devoted Muslim is More Christian than current Christian such as your self sadly i pray to God the path of jesus guide to you to the truth one day.

  26. I know many who reject God for emotional reasons. That’s something between them and their God. We can only hope and pray.

  27. I too became an agnostic years ago, and this brings so much pain to me, I simply cannot believe anymore, but I truly, really hope that Jesus is really God, and that there is salvation and afterlife, so I pray, Jesus, if you're out there, save me from my sins, and forgive my lack of faith.

  28. Some of the names you mentioned had left Christianity. So, why are you pulling Islam into the subject?
    Is it a reflection of your anger because:
    – Christians priests and ministers are leaving the faith
    – Churches are for sale in enormous numbers
    – Christians are walking away from the faith all over
    – Christians youth are leaving the church
    – Only old people attend churches
    – Christianity is declining worldwide
    – Christianity is losing followers of Jesus to Atheism, Agnosticism and Islam everywhere
    – Christianity is not appealing and lacks common sense

    If you want to stop Christians from leaving the faith, then have deep bible studies and stop attacking other religions.

  29. I watched your video on my TV while signed out of YouTube and now I keep getting Bart Ehrman recommendations all the time.  Thanks a lot!  (JK) – Merry Christmas!BTW – How pathetic is it for someone to try to make a career off of not believing something?   Bart should know that "agnostic" is the equivalent of the Latin word we translated into English as "ignoramus."  Nice career, if you can get it.

  30. There is no evidence that Jesus existed and which Jesus sure there's a lot of people named Jesus but not the figure in the Bible

  31. The Bible is also filled with verses about God not loving people. In fact, it is filled with violence and even genocide.

    Phillip Jenkins is a professor at Penn State University and author of two books dealing with the issue of whether the Bible is more violent than the Quran: the published Jesus Wars, and Dark Passages , which has not been published but is already drawing controversy.

    "Much to my surprise, the Islamic scriptures in the Quran were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the Bible," Jenkins says.

    Violence in the Quran, he and others say, is largely a defense against attack.

    "By the standards of the time, which is the 7th century A.D., the laws of war that are laid down by the Quran are actually reasonably humane," he says. "Then we turn to the Bible, and we actually find something that is for many people a real surprise. There is a specific kind of warfare laid down in the Bible which we can only call genocide."

    It is called herem, and it means total annihilation. Consider the Book of 1 Samuel, when God instructs King Saul to attack the Amalekites: "And utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them," God says through the prophet Samuel. "But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."

    When Saul failed to do that, God took away his kingdom.

    "In other words," Jenkins says, "Saul has committed a dreadful sin by failing to complete genocide. And that passage echoes through Christian history. It is often used, for example, in American stories of the confrontation with Indians — not just is it legitimate to kill Indians, but you are violating God's law if you do not."

    Jenkins notes that the history of Christianity is strewn with herem. During the Crusades in the Middle Ages, the Catholic popes declared the Muslims Amalekites. In the great religious wars in the 16th, 17th and 19th centuries, Protestants and Catholics each believed the other side were the Amalekites and should be utterly destroyed.

  32. It makes me sad to hear that people who become atheist miss Christ. It shows that we need to reflect Christ more and more every day. Merry Christmas hater Wood and to all who read this comment.

  33. So Ehrman doesn't like that God gets angry??? There's a simple solution to that. Don't make Him angry!!! Simple isn't the same thing as easy though.

  34. Nevermind David. I just looked up your conversion story. Haven't seen it in quite a while. Yes I can say you must've been born again. My question now is, why do you still identify as a psychopath?

  35. Indeed, there's no man like Jesus. Even those who strongly oppose him still notice how different Jesus was from anyone who walked this earth. Quite interesting that this is the case for self-proclaimed "ex-christian" apostates– its sort of similar to how the first apostate Judas felt remorse after betraying Jesus

  36. I think on a practical level that an agnostic and an atheist are exactly the same but since I know many Christians misrepresent them or put them in different categories I feel like I have to point out that you call Bart Erman and agnostic and then you show a Facebook post where he clearly describes himself as an atheist when he says “I myself do not believe in God “. That is an atheist by any definition

  37. Wow…
    MAT 10. 34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.

    Jesus came, as HE said, not to bring peace but to do some family breaking.

    And he was born in October, what you call Christmas is a pagan Baal worshiping holiday.

  38. David, youre just a woodpecker !
    Even christian hate you who is fond of porn sermon. Dont cry cause l know you have nothing , your voice says it well, youre lost and feel like crying after knowingly you loose badly in all your debate.
    Believe me youre loosing viewers cause true christians have no hatred like you !
    Get yourself ready for the hellfire cause youll dream of it and reality is waiting for you.
    In hell ypur tongue will be pull out long enough and the angel will cut it when you shout in pain and it will repeat for thousand of years for people who love to lie against the truth. Enjoy your vacation in hell. Allah does not love you the mischief maker.
    How could a baby is sinless have to pay for others sin, it clearly shows your god is not just. Period !

  39. What is 'salvation' for Erhman?
    He seems in pain in face of good & evil at work. He doesn't see the love and mercy of God and doesn't understand his wrath on those who don't repent. The wrath is when you give youself to sin and reject sanctification.

  40. I used to believe in Mr. Wood until I realized logic and reason matter more. There need not be apologetics if there were nothing to explain (genocide, rape, misogyny, infanticide, sexism, racism, slavery). Btw, Dr. Ehrman is a scholar from an actual university, and his papers got peer reviewed. Mr. Woods is a doctor from where again and what papers did he submit again? *crickets If you wanna comment and you want me to reply, click 'like' so that I can see the likely ad hominem, ad hoc reason, god-of-the-gaps, argument from incredulity, and other faulty reasoning. Cheers. – Ex Baptist

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